Messersmith on Concrete

>Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999
>From: Jeff Greenwald
>Subject: FW: Modification to S261-99
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joseph J. Messersmith, Jr. [mailto:jjsmith@mnsinc.com]
>Sent: Monday, March 15, 1999
>To: JGreenwald@NCMA.org
>Subject: Modification to S261-99
>
>
>Jeff:
>
>The attached file has modifications I plan on proposing to MACS's S261-99
>in Costa Mesa. Do you think MACS will have any problems with this? By the
>way, there are many problems with this proposal. Does MACS plan on
>submitting modifications to clean it up?
>
>Jim Messersmith


CODE CHANGE. S261-99

PROPONENT OF MODIFICATION. Joseph J. Messersmith, Jr., Portland Cement Association

Revise Section 2111.1 to read:

2111.1 General. A masonry chimney is a chimney constructed of concrete or masonry, hereinafter referred to as masonry. Masonry chimneys shall be constructed, anchored, supported and ¼ (remainder unchanged).

Revise Sections 2111.5; 2111.15, Exception #1; 2113.5; 2113.8; and 2113.12, Exception #1 by deleting the word "reinforced."

Revise 2111.7 to read:

2111.7 Wall thickness. Masonry chimney walls shall be constructed of concrete, solid masonry units, or hollow masonry units grouted solid with not less than 4 inches nominal thickness.

Revise Section 2113.1 to read:

2113.1 General. A masonry fireplace is a fireplace constructed of concrete or masonry, hereinafter referred to as masonry. Masonry fireplaces shall be constructed in accordance with this section and ¼ (remainder unchanged).

Revise 2113.3.1 to read:

2113.3.1 Vertical reinforcing. For chimneys up to 40 inches wide, four No. 4 continuous vertical bars shall be placed in the concrete, or between wythes of solid masonry, or within the cells of hollow unit masonry, and grouted in accordance with ¼ (remainder unchanged).

Revise 2113.3.2 to read:

2113.3.2 Horizontal reinforcing. Vertical reinforcement shall be placed enclosed within 1/4-inch ties, or other reinforcing of equivalent net cross-sectional area, spaced not to exceed 18-inches on center in concrete, or placed in the bed joints of unit masonry according to ¼ (remainder unchanged).

Revise 2117.1 to read:

2117.1 General. A masonry heater is a heating appliance constructed of concrete or solid masonry, hereinafter referred to as masonry, having a mass of at least 1760 pounds (800 kg (1760 lbs.), excluding the chimney and foundation ¼ (remainder unchanged).

REASON. Existing 2111 addresses concrete and masonry chimneys and fireplaces. The proposal in some places mentions concrete and in others it is omitted. This could result in confusion as to whether some provisions address concrete. The changes being suggested above will clarify that the requirements apply equally to both materials.

In five sections the word "reinforced" is being proposed for deletion where it precedes the word "concrete." The provisions do not mandate reinforced masonry, and concrete should be treated no differently. Section 2113.3 will still require reinforcement in concrete, as well as masonry chimneys in buildings at higher seismic risk.


From: Jim Buckley [mailto:buckley@rumford.com]
Sent: Monday, March 16, 1999
To: JGreenwald@NCMA.org
Subject: Modification to S261-99

Jeff,

Thanks. I will contact Jim Messersmith. I don't see any reason not to agree with him. He's just trying to be consistent in the use of the words "concrete" and "reinforced concrete" and we just were focused on other things and were not as sensitive to it as he is. As far as I can see its only editorial and we should support the Portland Cement Association.

Jim Buckley

PS: We agree with Jim and have incorporated all his suggestions in both the IBC and IRC "Joint" revisions.

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