>Thanks for looking. Here's what I know and it's uncertain:..........
Well,I have made a start! I found them in the 1881 Census (presume you
had not done this?)
These are the details:
1881 Census of Manchester RG11/3984/Folio 089 Born
William J Buckley Head Mar 29 Iron Turner Manchester Lancs
Margaret ~ Wife Mar 27 Rochdale ~
John J ~ Son 3 Manchester ~
Elizabeth ~ Dau 18months ~ ~
John ~ Bro Unm 24 Book Keeper ~ ~
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This gives me a little difficulty in so far that it means William J was
born after the 1851 Census,which I also have on database. Picking out the
right JOHN without any aother info other than is age is rather difficult.
However,if you want to proceed I would suggest you go for the marriage cert
of William J or go for his birth cert circa 1852.
For the marriage it looks to me that there are three possibilities:
1. In Manchester 1872 third quarter
2. In Prestwich 1876 fourth quarter
3. In Prestwich 1877 second quarter
This would mean applying to Manchester Register Office and stating that he
only want the cert if William J married Margaret Gibson or Gillen. I think
it will be one of those three which I have copied from the Index,no other
info is given.
The birth cert looks to be a liitle more difficult. There is only one
William James in the index which is a possibility and this shows
registration in Ashton Under Lyne not Manchester but it would be worth a try.
This is in the third quarter of 1852.
Again the application would need to stipulate that his fathers name was
JOHN.
If it`s the wrong one you get your money back (£6.50 + post)
I`m afraid this is all I can suggest at this stage.
My Parish Register data is mostly pre 1837.
I dont have the full address for the 1881 Census info above because we did
not
copy complete address info to our database but that can be easily
rectified.
PS
The ANCOATS district of Manchester is about 4/5 miles from where I live.
Subject: Re: [BUCKLEY-L] Initial contact
Jim,
Looked at your details:
There are only two RICHARD`s on our database born/christened 1797. One
is in Oldham where I live,the other is in Shrewsbury Shropshire.
John is far more difficult to deal with,there are so many of them. Do
you have any other small pieces of info that may help ?
Colin
Hi Colin,
Thanks for looking. Here's what I know and it's uncertain:
William James Buckley (1847 - 1918) married to Margaret Gibson (or Gillen?)
This from my father:
"My father, being out of work because of the cut-off thumb tip, emigrated to Canada in 1911. His full name was John James Buckley, born Aug. 24, 1877, at 125 Cobden Street, Ancoak, Manchester, county of Lancaster. Father William James Buckley, Mother Margaret Buckley nee Gibson."
"My mother told me that Jack (my father) used to visit his grandparents [John Buckley] who lived in a castle in Northern England."
[But that doesn't figure with the dates if John died in 1858 before Jack was born. Maybe Jack visited his father, William in the castle - Jim]
"I never knew Grandfather Buckley [William James Buckley], as he died of beri-beri.
[Again, this doesn't jibe. William died in 1918 when my father would have been 9. Maybe it was John who died of beri beri. Looks as if he had a short life and died when he was only 36 years old - Jim]
He was a machinery salesman for Armstrong & Whitworth Co. He got beri beri in Para (now Belem) Brazil. My Dad told me his father always carried a gun on these trips to South America. When transporting his luggage, he always required the porters to carry his merchandise ahead of him so they wouldn't run away with his goods. Beri beri can be cured easily with vitamin C. The Englishmen found out the hard way. They found that taking lime juice would prevent beri beri so that is why they are called Limeys. Traveling to Brazil in those days took about three months by sailing vessel. Evidently the ships stopped at New York, New Orleans, etc."
John Buckley (1822 - 1858) - no information except maybe he "lived in a castle in Northern England" or maybe he worked for the Armstrong & Whitworth Co. and died of beri beri - above.
Richard Buckley (1797 - ?) - even less information
Any information you uncover will be appreciated.
Best,
Jim Buckley
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I am looking for proof that Rachel Buckley b. ca 1765 d. 1833 butts Co, GA
who married James Magbee/McBee c.1780 maybe in Pittsylvania or Halifax VA is
the dau. of James Buckley and Mary unk. Thanks for any help on Buckley or
Magbee names. Have lots of Magbee info to share but none on Buckley. Clare
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From: "Tom and Joanna Hamilton"
To: "Jim Buckley"
Subject: Re: [BUCKLEY-L] Initial contact
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999
Hi Jim,
My mother always told me we had relatives in Canada, however she never said
who they were. Right now, I see no connection, having checked the
information I have, however I will keep your information on hand just in
case. My John Buckley was born in 1864, birkenhead, Cheshire, England and
came to Pennsylvania in 1867. He married Jennie ( ) from Tennessee. Good
luck in your search!!
Thanks,
Joanna
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Buckley
To: Tom and Joanna Hamilton
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999
Subject: Re: [BUCKLEY-L] Initial contact
>Joanna,
>
>I don't know that far back. My grandparents, John James Buckley and Lettis
>Barnes Harrison Buckley, lived in Stockport and Blackpool, England. I
>think their family may well have come from Ireland but I don't know the
>details. They immigrated to Halifax in 1913, then on to Toronto,
>Pennsylvania and Ohio by the 1920's.
>
>The fact that my grandmother's mother was a Hamilton (Lettis Hamilton -
>1840 - 1920) and her father and grandfather, John and Joseph Hamilton go
>back in England to the 18th century, may imply some relationship between
>our families.
>
>Do you have a "tree" or can you provide and congruency with our tree at
>http://www.rumford.com/family/ftBuckley.html or my father's recollections,
>(below)?
>
>Best,
>
>Jim Buckley
>
>
>>Hello Jim,
>>>From what county and what country do your Buckley family originally come
>>from? Mine were from Cappawhite, tipperary, Ireland and then Birkenhead,
>>Cheshire, England before coming to the states in 1867. Thank you very
much,
>>Joanna
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Buckley
>>To: BUCKLEY-L@rootsweb.com
>>Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 7:49 PM
>>Subject: [BUCKLEY-L] Initial contact
>>
>>
>>>New to List, I would like to invite other Buckleys to visit the start of
>>>our "family tree" at http://www.rumford.com/family/ftBuckley.html in the
>>>hopes that we may have some ancestors in common.
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>Jim Buckley
